Great Smoky Mountains Fishing Report 07/17/17
We had five different groups of customers fishing the park this weekend that did very
good, and others that didn't. Some will be here through the week this week, others are
leaving, and some new ones will be coming in. We are advising them to fish the higher
elevations, or at least the upper middle elevations. Some choose the Middle Prong of
Little River, which we did not recommend, and ended up doing poorly. All of it and most
of its tributaries are at too low of an elevation and should be avoided during the hottest
days of the summer. All of the West Prong of Little River, and Abrams Creek should
also be avoided. The East Prong of Little River is in good shape, but only above the
Also, note that the streams on the Tennessee, side of the park are much lower than
those on the North Carolina, side of the Park. Streams with lower water levels also get
warmer faster simply because there is less of it. The uppermost sections of the West
Prong of Little Pigeon River, that's above the tunnel, is okay. The uppermost section of
the Middle Prong of Little Pigeon River, above the trailhead at the end of the road will
be in good shape. There are other areas, but this should give you an idea of where,
and where not to fish.
Fish'n Tales: (New Series - See the Menu of articles on your right: We plan on
replacing these every two or three days. Note that this is something I am just sitting
down and writing mostly off the top of my head, with no editing. It isn't intended to be a
professionally done release of any kind.
The next six years of the learning curve - part 2
Part One of "The Next Six Years of the Learning Curve", mentioned that we had moved
to Gatlinburg. Not only did that put us at Great Smoky Mountains National Park, it also
put us much closer to most any trout stream in the United States. We spent much of
our time during this six year period fishing in the Smokies and Yellowstone National
Park. We wanted to produce instructional videos on both national parks that including
fishing during all applicable seasons (Yellowstone isn't year-round like the Smokies),
and on all the streams in the parks. During that period of time, we made hundreds of
trips in the Smokies, which we could almost hit with a rock from our back door, and 16
trips to Yellowstone National Park that lasted from two to three weeks, to as long as two
months a trip.
Some of the time at Yellowstone, included trips to nearby rivers outside of the park -
the Madison, Yellowstone, Gallatin, Snake, Henry's fork of the Snake, Ruby and other
streams we could easily reach from one of the three places we stayed to fish
Yellowstone park - West Yellowstone, Gardiner, and Cook City, all in Montana.
There were many other trips made from our home in Tennessee, to various parts of
the nation that have trout streams. We revisited each major section of the country each
year fishing new streams and repeating fishing many of the better ones. During the
winter, we continued to fish the streams in the Southeast, and at times, the Southwest,
but we also made several trips to central and south Florida, including at least one trip a
year to the Keys. There, we fly fished for several fresh water species - largemouth
bass, bream, and peacock bass, as well as numerous saltwater species - tarpon,
snook, king and Spanish mackerel, bonefish, permit, sailfish, dolphin, wahoo, shark,
baracuda, bonita, tuna and other species. We made a few other coastal saltwater trips
to South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas.
On each and every fishing trip for trout, Angie and I collected insects from streams to
photo and video. We had special video permits from both National Parks, and special
permits to capture, video/photo insects. By the way, they are not free.
I could write one or more books on just the insects, but to summarize what we were
finding out, let me just say that almost everywhere we visited, we found out there were
local flies favored in the area, but when it came down to trying to determine the food
they were designed to imitate, no one seemed to know. When we asked fly shops and
local anglers what such and such, local fly imitated, the answer was maybe at best, a
mayfly, stonefly or caddisfly. In most cases, no one really knew. Most of them were
named after people, or the tier that came up with them. What we were finding out, was
that the insects and other foods the flies should be imitating, were much the same as
anywhere else in the same region and type of water. In other words, for example, a
baetis tricaudatus mayfly, commonly called a blue-winged olive, was the exact same
insect regardless as to whether it was found in Virginia or Idaho. Although there were
some differences in the aquatic insects in the western U.S., and the eastern U.S.,
many, if not the majority of them, were exactly the same nationwide.
We found out that the emphasis of most anglers and fly shops was on the flies
themselves, not the foods they should be imitating. It seemed that no one told them,
that trout ate real insects, not artificial trout flies. At the same time, we discovered that
all the recommendations for flies from anglers and fly shops, were based on trial and
error, or what Joe Blow caught some trout on recently. It was rarely the food that was
most plentiful and available for the trout to eat at the time. I had known for years,
regardless of the species of fish you pursued, they would always focus on eating the
most plentiful and available food. Although they are opportunistic feeders, it didn't take
very long for us to determine that was also true of trout..
I'm sure this won't go over very well with many, but what we discovered nationwide, was
that the trout fly business was a joke and a damn big mess, and in most cases, with the
blind leading the blind. .
Weather: (At Gatlinburg at about 1600 ft)
Today, there is a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 2pm. It will be
mostly sunny with a high near 86.
Tuesday, there's a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. It will be mostly
sunny with a high near 85.
Smoky Mountain Stream Conditions:
The streams with links that have nearby USGS Station Real-time stream data: Click the
links to see updates:
Little River: Rate 96 cfs at 1.68 ft.
(good wading conditions up to 250 cfs, and with extra caution up to 400 cfs)
Oconaluftee River: Rate 347 cfs at 1.59 ft.
(good wading up to 500 cfs and with extra caution up to 700 cfs)
Cataloochee Creek: Rate 73 cfs at 2.43 ft
(good wading conditions up to 125 with extra caution up to 150 cfs)
Little Pigeon River: It is flowing a little low.
Hazel Creek and the other larger NC streams flowing into Fontana Lake:
They are all flowing near a normal levels.
Recommended Trout Flies:
In addition to the two list below, you can always send us an email
(firstname.lastname@example.org) or call us at 800 594 4726 providing the specific times
you plan on fishing the park, and we will provide a list of flies and other associated
gear and equipment you need.
Trout Flies Currently Needed:
Brown and White Belly Sculpins:
Hook Size 6
Black and/or Olive Matuka Sculpin:
Size 4, 6, 8
Blue-winged olives: 14 Eastern BWOs
Little Yellow Stoneflies: 16/14
Cream Cahills: 14/16
Cinnamon Caddis: 16/18 (mostly Abrams Creek)
Little Green Stoneflies: 16
Slate Drakes: 10/12
Inch Worms: 10, 12, 14
Japanese Beetles: 14/16
Carpenter Ants: 16/18
Sandwich Hoppers: 6/8/10/12
New: Trout Flies You Will Need Soon (through 8/15/17, in addition to
those on the above list.
Mahogany Dun: 18
Recommended Fishing Strategy:
Keep in mind, the strategies I am recommending is for the maximum odds
of catching numbers of fish. Many prefer or favor a dry fly and by all means there isn't
anything wrong with that. It's just a fact that if nothing is hatching at the time, it reduces
your odds of success. You can still probably hook some trout, just not as many as if
you fish subsurface. Of course, this is also based on using good techniques and the
right flies. Some guys don't know how to fish below the surface.
Not all of the insects you see above will be hatching in the same location. It is usually
only two or three. It varies with the elevation. Some are just starting in the low
elevations and some about finished in the higher elevations. If you fished the day or
two before and know where something is hatching, fish the nymph or larva stage of it. If
you haven't fished the day or two before, until I spotted something hatching, I would
fish the BWO or maybe the Light Cahill nymph. If you spot something hatching (coming
off the water), change to the appropriate emerger, dun or adult imitations of the insect.
Tips for Beginners:
Don't let anyone intimidate you by contending that fly fishing is more difficult to learn
and master than other types of fishing. It isn't.
Tips for the Self Proclaimed Experts:
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